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The United Underworld Nations

There has always been a very ancient idea running through global folklore in all millennia and cultures that there are sub-surface cities within a hollow earth, and that at the heart of the hollow earth is a sun-like plasma ball radiating light and life to vegetation and creatures alikeTo get that theory in perspective however, it would mean that Agencies such as NASA were economical with the truth when it came to pictures of polar entrances from their satellites etc

In a world of easy to manipulate and process digital media it can never be solely shown by any digital image what is true or false.

Perhaps some evidential digital photo plus other corroborating evidence from its context would be better ?

Today it is perhaps better to rely on witness testimony from before the digital age – if, that is – it too hadn’t been edited on the net before we found it.

I know that there is a net archive with Josephus Flavius’s History of the Jews that would have been useful if it had retained the chapters that you can still find in the original 19th Century reference hard copies on the fallen angles and their modus operandi.

Useful also because it would have been able to backup my assertion that fallen giants also mentioned in the Celtic ‘Book of Invasions’  – had agreed to abide underground.

This concept of giants – whether  of the Nephilim – the giant descendants of the fallen angels or of the giants themselves – is born out by some of the folklore.

Indeed in the USA there is a constant ‘conspiracy dialogue’ about the Smithsonian Institute ‘covering up’  the archaeological remains of a giant people.


Some folklore speaks of hi-tek ideas such as ships or flying chariots that can unleash the power of the sun e.g. in the Mahabarata or of beautiful cities with elevators and colourful shimmering walls,  or with the capacity to project fields and beams with which to control the technologies of the surface dwellers. ( Admiral Byrd’s ‘secret diary’

I am certain that today though, in the 21st Century, the human tunnelling machines that gave us Area 1 to Area 51 to Area 151 etc and underground corporate-sponsored mega-cities linked by high speed monorails and a certain amount of elite military paranoia have probably already been invited to forget all about going any deeper !!


The sub-surface of our planet has to be a very interesting sociological ecosystem and pseudo-political infrastructure full of humanoid species of all shapes and sizes and states of peace.

A ‘United Sub-Surface Nations’ might be an interesting place to hang out.

Such a diverse and possibly motley crew from e.g. Celtic mythology was envisioned by Scottish painter John Duncan in 1912 – with his painting of the Fomorians.


Here then is a small selection of things that we can at present freely find on the net if we dig into various archives.

I’m not saying that this info in its entirety is going to be there for ever either !


For example even the Wayback Machine internet  ‘archive’ starts losing important details with time – whilst alleging to be ‘preserving knowledge’ for the future of mankind –

Maybe it was just me – but try finding this !! ???


In WW II, learn how inhabitants of Nagaland came to the world’s attention.



Nor must we make the other mistake of assuming that just because it is on the net, looks good etc that it is necessarily true. Indeed there are many sites on the net employing writers and digital artists to manufacture fake news.

We must neither be naïve about the status of some controversial information – for example if the net is purposefully flooded with fake images of e.g. Martian architecture and beings or Gigantic Americans – we must avoid being pushed to the conclusion that there is smoke without fire.  The reverse is true – there is no smoke without fire


Indian folklore and ancient tracts are replete with references to an underground and very advanced civilisation many millennia BC.


Folklore from Ancient times in India mentions a hollow earth and its cities ..


The Puranas make several comments about the hollow Earth. One such Puranic comment has to do with the narration of the Kalki avatar – that at the end of Kali Yuga, (the dark, iron Age c.a. 2025AD)  the Kalki Avatar will be born in the best of Brahmin families of the city of Shambala to annihilate wrongdoers on the surface of the globe by purging them with fire. Afterwards, the general Puranic version goes that men will come from the interior of the planet to the surface to re-colonise and re-start Vedic culture.  Note that Shambala is mentioned in the Puranas as a city of the planet’s interior. Not only in the Puranas, but in the Tibetan collective memory also, Shambala is deemed to be a city in the Earth’s interior.

Another Puranic narration which makes a direct comment in relation to the hollow portion of the Earth is one relating to the avatar Parasurama, and may be found in the Ninth Canto, Sixteenth Chapter, Texts 19 – 21, of the Bhagavatam. The 19th text says that ‘He confronted the warrior caste twenty one times and rid the face of the Earth of them’. The word Prithivim was used to denote the face of the Earth.

In Shree Ramayana there are two scenes which are suggestive of the existence of inner areas of the Earth. After Shrimati Sitadevi had been kidnapped by Ravana, Shree Laksman swore to Rama that he would pursue the rascal even if Lakshman had to chase him to the “dark hollows of the Earth.”

In chapter 8 of Kishkindya, Rama proves his ability to Sugriva by discharging an arrow which

 “pierced through seven palms, a rock, and the  innermost region of the Earth and in a minute again came back to the quiver.”


Supernatural weapons also appear in Hindu mythology, and are known generally as astras. These supernatural weapons are wielded by the characters of the various Hindu texts, including those of the famous epic, the Mahabharata


Although e.g. Nicholas Roerich may have seen a ‘Vimana’ or UFO in Tibet in the early 20th century – the technological and social ‘apartheid’ the surface dwellers on this earth has experienced for thousands of years has no sign of letting up.


Roerich’s 1929 book Altai-Himalaya described a type of silvery flying disc.

Here are Roerich’s words describing an event of August 5, 1927 in the Qinghai province of China, on the northeastern border of Tibet:


‘On August fifth—something remarkable! We were in our camp in the Kukunor district not far from the Humboldt Chain. In the morning about half-past nine some of our caravaneers noticed a remarkably big black eagle flying above us. Seven of us began to watch this unusual bird. At this same moment another of our caravaneers remarked, “There is something far above the bird.” And he shouted in his astonishment. We all saw, in a direction from north to south, something big and shiny reflecting the sun, like a huge oval moving at great speed. Crossing our camp this thing changed in its direction from south to southwest. And we saw how it disappeared in the intense blue sky. We even had time to take our field glasses and saw quite distinctly an oval form with shiny surface, one side of which was brilliant from the sun.’



Nicholas Roerich’s book called ” Shambala,” which was published in 1930 reflected his travels in Tibet and related the Tibetan’s rich hollow Earth folklore –  mentioning the cities of Shambala, Shangri La, and the kingdom of Agharta


Stories of highly advanced military weaponry do infer or imply a highly advanced technological society.   For example the human military industrial complex was driven by perceptions of war and threat to achieve great military and consequentially, social advances.


The military funding of science has had a powerful transformative effect on the practice and products of scientific research since the early 20th century. Particularly since World War I, advanced science-based technologies have been viewed as essential elements of a successful military.

In the years immediately following World War II, the military was by far the most significant patron of university science research in the U.S., and the national labs also continued to flourish. E.g. The complex histories of computer science and computer engineering were shaped, in the first decades of digital computing, almost entirely by military funding.

The need to keep up with corporate technology research (which was receiving the lion’s share of defence contracts) also prompted many science labs to establish close relationships with industry.


Given we can assume that the interior civilisation of our planet is both highly advanced and very self-sufficient and exposed to millennia of unending comforts – can we assume we have been left to shuffle about in a radio-active desert not of our own making because some naga-esque elite corporation made a decision to build several flimsy nuclear fission power plants on the coast in a notorious earthquake and tsunami zone in the Pacific ocean ?


There are authentic and evidential-sounding verses from the Indian Epics about how these ancient beings flew about and made war with such nuclear weapons:


“Gurkha, flying a swift and powerful vimana (fast aircraft)

hurled a single projectile (rocket) charged with the power

of the Universe (nuclear device). An incandescent column of

smoke and flame, as bright as ten thousand suns, rose with

all its splendour.

It was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic

messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race

of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.

The corpses were so burned as to be unrecognisable.

Hair and nails fell out; Pottery broke without apparent cause,

and the birds turned white.

…After a few hours all foodstuffs were infected…

…to escape from this fire the soldiers threw

themselves in streams to wash themselves and their

equipment.” — The Mahabharata


“It was a weapon) so powerful that it could destroy the earth

in an instant  A great soaring sound in smoke and flames

And on its sits death…” — The Ramayana


“Dense arrows of flame, like a great shower, issued

forth upon creation, encompassing the enemy…

A thick gloom swiftly settled upon the Pandava hosts.

All points of the compass were lost in darkness.

Fierce wind began to blow upward, showering dust and gravel.

Birds croaked madly… the very elements seemed disturbed.

The earth  shook,  scorched  by the terrible violent heat of this weapon.

Elephants burst into flame and ran to and fro in a frenzy…

over a vast area, other animals crumpled to the ground and died.

From all  points  of  the compass  the  arrows  of  flame  rained

continuously and fiercely.”  — The Mahabharata



“It was an unknown weapon, an iron thunderbolt, a gigantic messenger of death, which reduced to ashes the entire race of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas.”  is to be found in Section 1 of Mausala Parva.( http://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m16/m16001.htm).


“When the next day came, Samva actually brought forth an iron bolt through which all the individuals in the race of the vrishnis and the andhakas became consumed into ashes.

Indeed, for the destruction of the Vrishnis and the Andhakas, Samva brougt forth, through that curse, a fierce iron bolt that looked like a Gigantic messenger of death. The fact was duly reported to the king. In distress of mind, the king (Ugrasena) caused that iron bolt to be reduced to a fine powder. Men were employed to cast the powder into the sea.

J. Robert Oppenheimer the American theoretic Physicist and ‘father of the modern atom bomb has a very famous quote  ‘”We knew the world would not be the same. A few people laughed, a few people cried. Most people were silent. I remembered the line from the Hindu scripture, the Bhagavad-Gita; Vishnu is trying to persuade the Prince that he should do his duty, and to impress him, takes on his multi-armed form and says, ‘Now I am become Death, the destroyer of worlds.’ I suppose we all thought that, one way or another.”


From ancient texts there is more evidence of a very advanced technological society – if only from its stories of military prowess.


In the Mahabharata, various astras are used by the warriors during their epic battles. One of them, for example, is the Sudharshana Chakra. This was the astra used by Krishna, the 8 th avatar of the god Vishnu, and a major character in the Mahabharata. The Sudharshana Chakra is described as a spinning disc with 108 serrated edges. This weapon was made by Vishwakarma, the architect of the gods, from the dust of the Sun and the scraps from the Shiva’s trident, and given to Vishnu by Shiva. This weapon would return to its owner after disposing of an enemy.


Another astra found in the Mahabharata is the Pashupatastra. This weapon is regarded to be incredibly destructive, and capable of destroying all creation.

Yet another well-known astra in the Mahabharata is the Brahmashira, a weapon created by Brahma.

As for the Brahmashira, it has been mentioned that an area struck by this weapon would be completely destroyed, the land would be barren for twelve years, rain would not fall for the same amount of time, and everything there will become poisonous. In the Mahabharata, Arjuna and Ashwatthama used the Brahmashira against each other. Fearing that the power of these two astras would destroy the world, the sages beseeched the two warriors to take back their weapons


Stories of advanced shapeshifting reptilians are in stories, myth and culture all over the world. In Scottish faerie tales the ‘blue men of the minches’ [R Kirk]  or the (water dwelling)  ‘Draco’.


In India they are commonly called Naga.


The word Naga comes from the Sanskrit, and nag is the word for snake, especially the cobra, in most of the languages of India.


In Tibetan Buddhism

“Nagas [kLu] are a class of beings (often snake-like in form) that dwell in a variety of locations ranging from waterways and underground locations and also in unseen realms. These beings have their own perceptions and vary in their enlightened level as do humans and other beings.


Many Kashmiri festivals relate to Naga worship, “for example during the first snowfall, Nila, the Lord of Nagas, is worshipped. The Nagas are also propitiated in April and are related to Iramanjari Puja and to Varuna Panchmi, which is organised in July-August.”


And “in the darker half of the month of Jyeshtha, when a big festival is organised to propitiate the king Taksakyatra. The Nilamatapurana listed 527 Nagas that were worshipped in Kashmir. In the account of Abul Fazal, the court historian of Akbar, there are references to seven hundred places sacred to serpents.”


The purana also points to the association of the cult of Nagas with that of Shiva. In the Mahabharata and Harivamsa texts, Shesha was considered the son of Shiva. A lesser relation was developed with regard to Vishnu as in his sheshashayi form which links the primal waters with the sleeping Vishnu.


The ‘golden cities of Nagaland’ are described in folklore here ..


Nilamata Purana, the ancient history of Kashmir, is centered around the original inhabitants of Kashmir, the Nagas. In the verses 232-233 it mentions their capital: “O Naga, the dwelling of the Nagas is the city named Bhogavati. Having become a Yogi that Naga-chief (Vasuki) dwells there as well as here. But with his primary body, Vasuki, protecting the Nagas, shall live in Bhogavati. O sinless one, you (also) dwell here constantly.” Bhogavati is also mentioned in the Bhagavata Purana 1.11.11. Its another name is Putkari.


Bhagavata Purana gives the following description of Bila-svarga, the subterranean regions compared for their opulence to heaven (5.24.7-15):


“My dear King, beneath this earth are seven other planets, known as Atala, Vitala, Sutala, Talatala, Mahatala, Rasatala and Patala. I have already explained the situation of the planetary systems of earth. The width and length of the seven lower planetary systems are calculated to be exactly the same as those of earth.


“In these seven planetary systems, which are also known as the subterranean heavens [bila-svarga], there are very beautiful houses, gardens and places of sense enjoyment, which are even more opulent than those in the higher planets because the demons have a very high standard of sensual pleasure, wealth and influence. Most of the residents of these planets, who are known as Daityas, Danavas and Nagas, live as householders. Their wives, children, friends and society are all fully engaged in illusory, material happiness. The sense enjoyment of the demigods is sometimes disturbed, but the residents of these planets enjoy life without disturbances. Thus they are understood to be very attached to illusory happiness.


“My dear King, in the imitation heavens known as bila-svarga there is a great demon named Maya Danava, who is an expert artist and architect. He has constructed many brilliantly decorated cities. There are many wonderful houses, walls, gates, assembly houses, temples, yards and temple compounds, as well as many hotels serving as residential quarters for foreigners. The houses for the leaders of these planets are constructed with the most valuable jewels, and they are always crowded with living entities known as Nagas and Asuras, as well as many pigeons, parrots and similar birds. All in all, these imitation heavenly cities are most beautifully situated and attractively decorated.


“The parks and gardens in the artificial heavens surpass in beauty those of the upper heavenly planets. The trees in those gardens, embraced by creepers, bend with a heavy burden of twigs with fruits and flowers, and therefore they appear extraordinarily beautiful. That beauty could attract anyone and make his mind fully blossom in the pleasure of sense gratification. There are many lakes and reservoirs with clear, transparent water, agitated by jumping fish and decorated with many flowers such as lilies, kuvalayas, kahlaras and blue and red lotuses. Pairs of cakravakas and many other water birds nest in the lakes and always enjoy in a happy mood, making sweet, pleasing vibrations that are very satisfying and conducive to enjoyment of the senses.


According to the Vinaya or Buddhist Monastic Rule, an animal cannot become a monk.   At one time, a Naga was so desirous of entering the Order that he assumed human form in order to be ordained.

“Shortly after, when asleep in his hut, the naga returned to the shape of a huge snake. The monk who shared the hut was somewhat alarmed when he woke up to see a great snake sleeping next to him! The Lord Buddha summoned the naga and told him he may not remain as a monk, at which the utterly disconsolate snake began to weep. The snake was given the Five Precepts as the means to attaining a human existence in his next life when he can then be a monk. Then out of compassion for the sad snake, the Lord Buddha said that from then on all candidates for the monkhood be called ‘Naga’ as a consolation. They are still called ‘Naga’ to this day.”


Mme. H. P. Blavatsky [fl. 1900] co-founder of the Theosophical Society, thought:

When the Brahmans invaded India they “found a race of wise men, half-gods, half-demons”, says the legend, men who were the teachers of other races and became likewise the instructors of the Hindus and the Brahmans themselves.


Amongst humanity that is ‘not in the know’ or on a ‘need to know’ basis there is some evidence apparent that the world really isn’t everything we have been told it is – it is in fact far more than that !!


By Lieutenant-Commander Fitzhugh Green, U.S.N.     (c.a. 1914)


‘In the proposed transpolar flight of the huge new navy dirigible, the ZR-1 (the Shenandoah), next summer, lies the most thrilling possibility that ever faced a single body of explorers;

In the centre of the unknown area of the Polar Sea may be discovered a vast continent heated by subterranean fires, and inhabited by the descendants of the last Norwegian colony of Greenland!

So wild is the idea as to tax the most gullible imagination. Yet it is vividly encouraged and supported not only by history and tradition, but by the searching test of scientific analysis…’

Examine the Eskimo tradition: It paints in vivid terms the White Men swarming suddenly north to a wonderland the natives long had known. Because of evil spirits, no Eskimo had ever dared this trail.


‘Confirming that the earth is indeed hollow, in February 19, 1947, Admiral Richard E. Byrd of the United States Navy flew north from Alaska beyond the north pole on a flight of 1700 miles over the Arctic Ocean and came to a land covered with vegetation, lakes and rivers and even saw a prehistoric-type mammoth in the underbrush.


From his suppressed but now available alleged diary, an entry of the flight log:



At 0910 Hours- Both Magnetic and Gyro compasses beginning to gyrate and wobble, we are unable to hold our heading by instrumentation. Take bearing with Sun compass, yet all seems well. The controls are seemingly slow to respond and have sluggish quality, but there is no indication of Icing!


At 1135 Hours- Our radio crackles and a voice comes through in English with what perhaps is a slight Nordic or Germanic accent! The message is:

‘Welcome, Admiral, to our domain. We shall land you in exactly seven minutes! Relax, Admiral, you are in good hands.’

I note the engines of our plane have stopped running! The aircraft is under some strange control and is now turning itself. The controls are useless.


1140 Hours- Another radio message received. We begin the landing process now, and in moments the plane shudders slightly, and begins a descent as though caught in some great unseen elevator! The downward motion is negligible, and we touch down with only a slight jolt!


1145 Hours- I am making a hasty last entry in the flight log. Several men are approaching on foot toward our aircraft. They are tall with blond hair. In the distance is a large shimmering city pulsating with rainbow hues of color. I do not know what is going to happen now, but I see no signs of weapons on those approaching. I hear now a voice ordering me by name to open the cargo door. I comply.


‘I bid you welcome to our domain, Admiral.’

I see a man with delicate features and with the etching of years upon his face. He is seated at a long table. He motions me to sit down in one of the chairs.


After I am seated, he places his fingertips together and smiles.


He speaks softly again, and conveys the following:

‘We have let you enter here because you are of noble character and well-known on the Surface World, Admiral.’

Surface World, I half-gasp under my breath!

‘Yes,’ the Master replies with a smile, ‘you are in the domain of the Arianni, the Inner World of the Earth. We shall not long delay your mission, and you will be safely escorted back to the surface and for a distance beyond. But now, Admiral, I shall tell you why you have been summoned here.


Our interest rightly begins just after your race exploded the first atomic bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan. It was at that alarming time we sent our flying machines, the “Flugelrads”, to your surface world to investigate what your race had done. That is, of course, past history now, my dear Admiral, but I must continue on.


You see, we have never interfered before in your race’s wars, and barbarity, but now we must, for you have learned to tamper with a certain power that is not for man, namely, that of atomic energy. Our emissaries have already delivered messages to the powers of your world, and yet they do not heed. Now you have been chosen to be witness here that our world does exist.


You see, our Culture and Science is many thousands of years beyond your race, Admiral.’

Again in 1956 he flew inside the earth this time from McMurdo Sound in the Antarctic on a flight of 2,300 miles.

Overland continually, after passing the pole he came to a land with subtropical vegetation, rivers and lakes, before he had to turn back for lack of fuel.’

(WORLDS BEYOND THE POLES, F. Amadeo Giannini, (Quoting from press and radio releases))


News of Byrd’s discovery was suppressed by the United States government and by the global Illuminist Conspiracy which has a substantial control over most of the world’s governments and ultimately their peoples.


So great was this fabulous discovery by Admiral Richard Byrd, that news of it was quickly suppressed. Shortly after the initial announcement of Admiral Byrd’s flights through the polar openings, U.S. Navy Intelligence clamped down on any further publication of the greatest geographical discovery in history.

Henceforth, Our hollow Earth has become a ‘top secret’ !


There is plenty Folklore about hollow earth visible to ordinary surface dwellers.


Olaf Jansen was a Norwegian youth who stumbled into the hollow part of the Earth in a voyage with his father in their small sailing craft through the Northern Polar Opening. This was in the first part of August 1829. They had been sailing about 15 days North from Franz Josef Land..


He described the sun as being dimmer in the sense that it was without glare- Olaf described its intensity as having the brightness of the solar system’s sun during a partial eclipse. This description reminds the author of beta-blocker sunglasses which dim the Sun’s light though they make colours stand out more vividly. An inner sun comprised of soft particles, as described above, could explain such a nature.


Here is the account of the inner sun related by Olaf.  “One day about this time, my father startled me by calling my attention to a novel sight far in front of us, almost at the horizon. ‘

It is a mock sun, ‘ exclaimed my father. ‘ I have read of them; it is called a reflection or mirage. It will soon pass away.’


But this dull-red, false sun, as we supposed it to be, did not pass away for several hours; and while we were unconscious of its emitting any rays of light, still there was no time thereafter when we could not sweep the horizon in front and locate the illumination of the so-called false sun, during a period of at least twelve hours out of every twenty-four.


Clouds and mists would at times almost, but never entirely, hide its location. Gradually it seemed to climb higher in the horizon of the uncertain purply sky as we advanced.

It could hardly be said to resemble the sun, except in its circular shape, and when not obscured by clouds or the ocean mists, it had a hazy-red, bronzed appearance, which would change to a white light like a luminous cloud, as if reflecting some greater light beyond.


We finally agreed in our discussion of this smoky furnace-coloured sun, that, whatever the cause of the phenomenon, it was not a reflection of our sun, but a planet of some sort of a reality. ” (THE SMOKY GOD, pp. 85 – 87)


The story of polar openings and entrances and internal and eternal suns etc doesn’t generally sit well with NASA and their satellite system but then this is the same NASA that seems to turn off the cameras every time a real spacecraft/UFO flies past the ISS space station.


There are a couple of ‘leaked’ NASA satellite pictures of the sort of opening Admiral Byrd may have flown into – but then in the age of high-end digital image manipulation by high-end digitally enhancing demons and software – probably Renee Descartes could not tell if what he was seeing was demonic or real !!


H. D. Northrop further notes that the light of the aurora is continuous during the Arctic night, and he says that the arch which is seen as being such a prominent feature of the aurora is only “part of a ring of light which is elevated considerably above the surface of our globe, and whose centre is situated in the vicinity of the pole.”

And that is what we should expect when we remember that it is the reflection of the rays coming through the polar openings which causes the phenomenon. Northrop points out that a person looking at this ring from a point very far north would imagine that the aurora was to the south of him simply because the ring was so far spread out overhead.


This point is corroborated by the author of “The Arctic World” who says the same thing about the aurora. Moreover,  William Denovan in his scientific reference work, “The Phenomena of Nature”, makes the statement that:


“In temperate regions the aurora does not present such grand forms as in the extreme north.”

Observations by north polar explorers indicate that there is indeed a land in the far north with a subtropical climate heated by a sister sun inside Our Hollow Earth. For example, Explorer’s reports of abundant animal and bird life in the summer time in the far north indicates a homeland in the north from which they extend in the summer further south and to which they are seen to migrate in the fall.

With something simple such as the interplay of light causing issues with public domain science and its opportunity to verify a hidden structure to our planet, perhaps evidence for very unexpected geological realities and strata can be found in the evident biology ?


Explorer Hays observed abundant insect life in the far north. When he was in latitude 78 degrees, 17 minutes in early July he said, “I secured a yellow-winged butterfly, and-who would believe it–a mosquito…ten moths, three spiders, two bees and two flies.” (The Open Polar Sea, p. 413)


Notice the element of surprise that many explorers expressed resulting from the discovery of conditions which they weren’t expecting.


Explorer Greely, in his book, THREE YEARS OF ARCTIC SERVICE, in Grinnell Land in June of 1881, reports birds of an unknown species, butterflies and bumblebees, so many flies they couldn’t sleep at night, and temperatures of 47 and 50 degrees at latitude 81 degrees 49 minutes north. He also found plenty willow to make fire, and much driftwood, (Chapter 26, Vol. I)


A Swedish expedition under Otto Torell, found near Trurenberg Bay in the Arctic Sea, trees floating with green buds on them and among them was found the seed of the tropical Entada Bean which measured 2.25 inches across. (Gardner, p. 253)


Explorer Sverdrup at 81 degrees north found so many hares that they named one inlet, Hare Fiord. Also nearly all expedition parties found enough game to keep their exploring parties well fed with meat. These included herds of musk-oxen and reindeer. (Gardner p. 254)


Captain Beechey saw so many birds on the west coast of Spitzbergen that sometimes a single shot killed thirty of them. (Gardner p. 254)


All explorers observed that not all animals migrate south to escape the cold

Arctic winds in winter, but many instead go north. Where do they go? Greely,

surprised at the tremendous amount of wildlife in a supposed frozen north wrote, “Surely this presence of birds and flowers and beasts was a greeting on nature’s part to our new home.”


Explorer Kane reported seeing several groups of Brent Geese, which is an American migratory bird, flying NORTHEAST in their wedge-shaped line of flight at 80 degrees 50′ north at Cape Jackson, near Grinnelland in late June 1854.


Explorer Greely makes this statement of the northward migration of bears,  “Lieutenant Lockwood, in May, 1882, noticed bear tracks (going northeast) on the north coast of Greenland, near Cape Bennet in 83 degrees 3′ N.,” and commented, “…I cannot understand why the bear ever leaves the rich hunting-field of the ‘North Water’ for the desolate shores of the northward.” (THREE YEARS, p. 366)


Greely also wrote about the Ross Gull, “…the observations of Murdoch at Point

Barrow show that this bird, in thousands, passes over that point to the northeast in October, none of which were seen to return.” (THREE YEARS, p. 383)


Use of biblical and evocative words for these people and places may invite poor judgement.

The Nordic descriptions of such places is very reminiscent of the ancient Indian folklore.


In THE SMOKY GOD, Olaf Jansen gives a description of where the Garden of Eden is located. Inside the earth, Olaf Jansen says, “The City of ‘Eden’ is located in what seems to be a beautiful valley, yet, in fact, it is on the loftiest mountain plateau of the Inner Continent, several thousand feet higher than any portion of the surrounding country. It is the most beautiful place I have ever beheld in all my travels. In this elevated garden all manner of fruits, vines, shrubs, trees, and flowers grow in riotous profusion. In this garden four rivers have their source in a mighty artesian fountain. They divide and flow in four directions.”

(THE SMOKY GOD, pp. 113, 114)


Since Olaf and his father travelled far into the continent on a monorail train to reach the Garden of Eden, and since the Garden of Eden is in a valley upon the highest mountain plateau of all the Inner Continent, and since out of the Garden of Eden flows the four rivers in four directions, we may conclude that the Garden of Eden must be located toward their southern centre of the Inner Continent.


In more ancient Nordic texts though, the story of giants and dwarves and Middle Earth dwellers is taken up in works such as  Völuspá

“The wisdom of the prophetess”, the most famous mythological poem of the “Elder Edda”, relates in the form of a vision the beginning and end of all things and tells of the gods and their doom.


From above comes the all-powerful god of judgment, while Nidhogg, the evil dragon, comes from below and bears away the corpses.


Nine worlds I can reckon, nine roots of the tree.

The wonderful ash, way under the ground

When Ymir lived long ago

Was no sand or sea, no surging waves.

Nowhere was there earth nor heaven above.

Bur a grinning gap and grass nowhere.

The sons of Bur then built up the lands.

Moulded in magnificence middle-Earth:

Sun stared from the south on the stones of their hall,

From the ground there sprouted green leeks.

Sun turned from the south, sister of Moon,

Her right arm rested on the rim of Heaven;

She had no inkling where her hall was,


The Bible as we know it today seems to have retained allusions to these realities despite the number of heavy secular edits it has received over the millennia.


American King James Version

That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth


And Isaiah 13:22


And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged


dragons – (tanni^yn). This word, in its various forms of “tannim, taninim, tannin, and tannoth,” denotes sometimes “jackals or thoes,” as in Job 30:29; Psalm 44:19; Micah 1:8; Malachi 1:3. But it also denotes a great fish, a whale, a sea monster, a dragon, a serpent. It is translated ‘a whale’ in Genesis 1:21; Job 7:12; Ezekiel 32:2; ‘serpents,’ Exodus 7:9-10, Exodus 7:12; ‘dragons,’ or ‘dragon,’ Deuteronomy 32:33; Nehemiah 2:13; Psalm 44:19; Psalm 74:13; Psalm 91:13; Psalm 148:7; Isaiah 27:1; Isaiah 51:9; Jeremiah 14:6; Jeremiah 51:34; Malachi 1:3, “et al.;” and once ‘sea monsters,’ Lamentations 4:3. A “dragon” properly means a kind of winged serpent much celebrated in the dark ages.  In their pleasant palaces – Hebrew, ‘Their palaces of luxury and pleasure.’


Other creatures of legends were the ‘Fomorians’ – a bunch of what appears to have been un-human or even in-human humanoids – giants, trolls, ghouls, kobolds and other assorted monsters !

There have been persistent rumours that agencies have flooded the internet with giant-hoax pictures to try to make the allegations that America was once ‘land of the giants’ seem incredible ..

It has been seen in many of the ancient mounds found in Ohio, Indiana, Pennsylvania, New York and Minnesota that giant skeletons and artefacts were unearthed. The weight of evidence therefore points to the Indians’ legends possessing the historical fact–not the conservative theories.

According to the Indian accounts (as preserved in Volume 12 of Memoires of the Historical Society of Pennsylvania , in the distant past the Deleware-Lenni-lenape peoples swept in a flood of migration from the far west, but on reaching the valleys west of the Mississippi, they were confronted by a well-entrenched people of tremendous stature and possessing a high civilization. These people they called the “Allegewi” or “Telligewi”–much the same as given to them by the California Indians, and after whom the Alleghany river and mountains were named. The progress of the Deleware-Lenni-lenape was stopped, and they were driven back but not discouraged. At the same time, the Iroquois people were trying to find a passage through Allegewi territory, from the north. Two migratory peoples eventually entered into an alliance together, and proclaimed war against the giants. One by one, the Allegewi strongholds fell, and the giants were forced to become wanderers along the streams and river-systems they had attempted to defend. Another tradition affirms that the primitive Indian invaders, because of their great numbers, successfully overwhelmed the ancient gargantuan inhabitants of the north-central states, and that the last great battle in this area was fought at the falls of the Ohio river, where the remnant was driven upon a small island below the rapids, and there the whole of them cut to pieces. The Indian chief, Tobacco, informed General George Rogers Clark of a legend in which was preserved the memory of a battle fought at Sandy Island, where “the first peoples of this land” had been slaughtered. Another Indian chief, Cornplanter, told that Ohio, Kentucky and Tennessee had once been inhabited by a gigantic white-skinned people, who were familiar with the arts of civilization, which his own forefathers knew nothing of. After a series of battles with the invading tribes, these former inhabitants were completely exterminated.

The chief also declared that the old burial places–the mounds–were the graves of these indigenous giants, and that the great earthen fortresses had not been constructed by his people, but belonged to the “very long ago” people, who were huge, light-complexioned, and skilled in many arts. The Indians also had a superstition concerning the territory of what is now Kentucky. One Indian elder expressed his astonishment that present-day white folk would want to live in a region which had  been the scene of such conflicts as had taken place there. An old Sac Indian, in 1800, said that Kentucky was filled with ghosts of its slaughtered giant inhabitants, and wondered why the white man could make it his home.

When we look at the Mound Builder earthworks in the northern and central states, it is interesting to note that they are mostly defense enclosures which, for the most part, face the north and west–the directions the Indians claim their forefathers invaded from…..

The memory that North America was once inhabited by giants has  been preserved not only by the Indians, but also by ancient peoples in other parts of the world.

One of the oldest Chinese literary works, the Shan Hai King, the “Classic of Mountains and Seas,” a geography book dating back in its original form to 2250B.C.

Although the land-form descriptions in the texts are mentioned only in a casual way, enough data is present, along with descriptions of flora e.g. maize and peanuts, fauna and mineral findings to be fairly certain that these texts describe regions in the Americas.

Recent analysis by experts has brought to light the fact that portions of this early work give a detailed and highly accurate description of the major mountains and rivers of North America–revealing that the ancient Chinese once undertook a scientific survey of this continent over 4,000 years ago. In the Ninth and Fourteenth Books of the Shan Hai King are fragments of observations made by the Oriental survey team of the various people inhabiting America at that time. In the regions of the “Southeast Corner to the Northeast Corner” (from Georgia to New England),as well as in the “Great Waste” (the western and south-western deserts), the Chinese called the “Great Men’s Country.” One of the surveyors, named Cheu-fu~Chang, found in the west not far from the  “Great Canyon Where the Sun is Born”–the Grand Canyon–a wooden arrow with a metal point”  6 1/2 feet long. He calculated that its owner must have been 12 to 15 feet tall. A  footnote to this discovery, given in the Fourteenth Book, tells how ancient Japanese sailors once  encountered bad weather, and were driven onto the shores of the “Eastern Continent.” There,  before their return home, they encountered “tall savages of a foreign tribe” more than 11 feet  high. Other early Chinese literature, such as Ho-tu’s “Album of Gems” and the “Kuh-liang  History” speak of strange lands beyond the Pacific called Ta-tsin” and “Lin-t’ao,” where men of  huge stature lived, leaving behind footprints many feet in size where they walked. 

The alleged giants of North America appear at one time to have been a restless, warlike breed, for several ancient sources describe their invasions of other lands.

In LOST MINES AND HIDDEN TREASURE, the author Leland Lovelace tells of two prospectors who discovered a series of caves in the mountains of south-western Nevada. Within the giant caverns they discovered furniture pieces of enormous size as if they had been constructed for giants. Dishes of gold and other precious metals also were found in the caves.


Lovelace also tells of a prospector named J.C. Brown who, in 1904, claimed to have discovered a tunnel cut into the slopes of the Cascade Mountains of California. He followed the enormous tunnel through solid rock and came into a large, cavern-like room lined with tempered copper. Gold shields and other artefacts hung upon the walls. Strange drawing, undecipherable hieroglyphics, and the skeletons of giant humans were discovered in other rooms.



In conclusion then, about past epochs and present and future epochs of giants, reptilians and other creatures living in some snug secret ‘commonwealth’ underground – whether it is in any creative human musicians’ interest to want to play music in such places inured to the daily cries of the tortured, tormented, of those in deprivation without even the basics of water – I am not now as sure as I was when I wrote this play.


Often it is my personal flaw to moralise, justify and judge – so I leave you with a quote from Admiral Byrd’s alleged diary of his meeting with these ‘Underground Elders !’ in 1947AD


‘Quickly, we walked back through the great door of the Master’s chamber and once again entered into the elevator.


The door slid silently downward and we were at once going upward and enter into what seems to be an elevator.


We descend downward for some moments, the machine stops, and the door lifts silently upward! We then proceed down a long hallway that is lit by a rose-colored light that seems to be emanating from the very walls themselves! One of the beings motions for us to stop before a great door. Over the door is an inscription that I cannot read. The great door slides noiselessly open and I am beckoned to enter.


I step inside and my eyes adjust to the beautiful coloration that seems to be filling the room completely


We see at a great distance a new world stirring from the ruins of your race, seeking its lost and legendary treasures, and they will be here, my son, safe in our keeping. When that time arrives, we shall come forward again to help revive your culture and your race….’





About ScottishAndrew

Contemporary Scottish fiddle player, Scottish ceilidh dance caller, folk music composer, Ufologist, natural and supernatural photographer and tour operator, digital artist and designer, writer and columnist - interested in cosmology and 5th generation computation without the 'Halting problem' !! THE SCOTTISH ANDREWVERSE Ceilidh musician and man of dance Investigator of paranormal circumstance Composer of art and pictures and tunes And researcher of old Scottish stones and runes Cosmic conundrums and landing on the Moon ...


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